Carnal People
Friday, April 25, 2014
Carnal people have none of the fruits or gifts that can only come by Gods spirit. Carnal people try their best to mimic spiritual things but the true people of God can see the fakery. Carnal people do not have the faith and grace needed for the hope of salvation; simply put, they are not nor have they ever been Christians.
Gods elect saints are true Christians and possess the Holy Spirit and are being saved by grace through faith in the message of the gospel and acknowledgement of Jesus as messiah and son of God. The saints are learning the truth by way of divine revelation of what was lost from the first century AD.
Carnal people cannot lose something they never had and was never given to them in the first place. The hope of the carnal person is to be converted and this they do not recognize because they falsely think they are converted. Carnal people are deceived by Satan and are Satan’s children, the children of disobedience.
Is the kingdom of God truly everlasting with no end and is the everlasting life the saints are promised only for a designated time? Some people play with words rather than see the true meaning of those words in the complete text to understand the meaning. The word for everlasting in Greek is “aionios”;
Strong's Ref. # 166
Romanized aionios
Pronounced ahee-o'-nee-os
from GSN0165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well):
KJV--eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).
Some say that this word does not mean forever without end but this word is used to describe Gods kingdom and the type of life the saints are promised in that kingdom.
KJV Matthew 19:29
29. And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
KJV 2 Peter 1:11
11. For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Will the kingdom of God and the life the saints have in it expire, are these things only for a designated time? The lake of fire is said by some to be only temporary and they play with the word “aionios” to say that this lake of fire purges away all evil to supply salvation to the entirety of human kind, some going as far as to include the Devil and his fallen angels.
This lake of fire is truly forever and ever with no end but is not for human beings to be purged but totally and completely destroyed whereas the Devil and his fallen angels exist in it forever in torment. The everlasting destruction below is describing the lake of fire and the word used for everlasting is “aionios”;
KJV 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
8. In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
No one will ever live forever and ever in torment except for Satan and his fallen angels, the human beings who are cast into the lake of fire are destroyed forever and ever, they will never live again. The lake of fire is not the vehicle of salvation, only Jesus is the savior, not fire. The lake of fire cleansing theory is a false gospel because there is no other way to be saved other than Jesus Christ. Anyone who has had the Holy Spirit and rejects all that comes with the spirit to live in unrepentant sin will be destroyed forever and ever. The sacrifice of Jesus will not serve as payment for this unpardonable sin.
KJV Hebrews 10:26-27
26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth (After being given the Holy Spirit), there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (The sacrifice of Jesus will not pay for this type of sin),
27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries (This is the lake of fire).
Carnal people cannot commit the unpardonable sin because they do not have the Holy Spirit.
This is one reason why God is not offering the hope of salvation to all of humanity at this time; because God, who is omniscient, knows that the vast majority of human beings would commit the unpardonable sin and God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance, a condition required to have the hope of salvation.
KJV Luke 13:3
3. I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
It is an act of Gods mercy and love for humanity that He does not call and choose us all at the same time.
Gods love is truly unconditional. The saints are converted to establish a relationship in this Godly love with their creator. Godly Love then becomes the spiritual glue that binds us and God together; we love God because He first loved us. Carnal unconverted people do not have this spiritual connection of Godly love but are cut off from God because of sin. To have this connection means that you know God to the degree God is revealed whereas carnal people do not know God but think of Him as a trinity or binary deity.
The converted know the message of the gospel but the carnal minds think they have an immortal soul that consciously survives death to go to bliss in heaven or torment in hell and some believe in the false rapture and keeping the works of the law. These people should not even be called Christians as it defiles the true meaning of the word.
Love is the key to understanding Gods reason for creating humanity. What God is developing in the saints is His love, a love that cannot sin and is the fulfillment of the intent of the shadow law. If a person will not cooperate with God while having the Holy Spirit and is bent on following the way of Satan, God will forever and ever destroy that person, both body and spirit, in the lake of fire. This does not change who God is or show some inability on His part to save all people, as those who teach universal salvation think, because it is not Gods first cause for creating humanity, it is as stated above; humans must become like God and Jesus, LOVE, or else they will not have life. True Godly love has been proven by the shadow law that it cannot be legislated or forced upon anyone but must be accepted by a response of love from the one God shows love too. The very foundation of love is laid upon the free will acceptance of love between two parties. The shadow of this is marriage, as Jesus loved the church men should love their wives. Who forced you to love your wife or for that matter anyone you love? You love because you want to by your own free will choice.
If some people go to the lake of fire this has no negative effect on God, for God will go the uttermost to save people, but if a person with knowledge refuses to love God, refuses to repent and obey the gospel, God has no use for them. Losing a person to the lake of fire is not a failure for God it is separating sheep from goats or chaff from wheat; it is accomplishing what Gods will is. God has always been God and always will be God and has never changed; why would anyone think humanities creation by God would change Him? Will our sin or righteousness add to or take anything away from God?
KJV Job 22:3
3. Is it any pleasure to the almighty, that thou art righteous? or is it gain to him, that thou makest thy ways perfect?
KJV Job 35:6-8
6. If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
7. If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?
8. Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.
Humanity cannot add to or take anything away from an eternal God. Humanity is given the hope by God to enter into the love that God is. All humanity is like raw material, clay in the hands of the potter, who makes vessels, some will be of honor some dishonor and God in eternity has known who will be in each category. God did not mar those vessels of dishonor but those vessels became marred on their own while in His hand, while converted they failed, but those of honor were successful in their election. God will in four stages offer salvation to humanity; The 144,000, the innumerable multitude, the millennium and second resurrection and while the vast majority of all humanity will receive salvation there will be some that will not. At this time it is the first stage, the 144,000, who have this opportunity and they must focus on it and let the world alone, turn away from them who are Satan’s ministers and children and give themselves completely to God and Christ, it is our time now, the carnal will follow later.
KJV 1 Peter 4:17-18
17. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18. And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
This article is written for Gods scattered elect saints. The reason for it is to help show that we should not be trying to convert the carnal world for this is Gods business not ours as only God has the omniscience to do this. We should not attempt to preach the gospel to the world as only God gives the eyes to see and the ears to hear its message, God grants repentance to those He has already written in the lambs book of life from the foundation of the world and in this current age there will only be 144,000 of them. What we need to do is focus on our growth and attempting to do some work we have not been given to do will only take our focus off of our own spiritual growth. I am one like you, an elect saint of God, and in my early years of conversion I had to learn this lesson. The small group of saints that I fellowship with have focused on our growth and we let the world alone. This blog I write does expose lies and gives the truth on many spiritual subjects in the hope that some of Gods scattered elect may stumble upon it and contact me. This blog is not an effort to convert the carnal world because no one can convert anyone but God and Christ. Even when Jesus was on the Earth and after three and a half years of preaching his gospel and doing miracles only 120 people of the thousands that heard him believed and were converted on Pentecost.
The saints must not waste their time but use it to grow to become the very best servant of God and Christ that they can be. I do not have all the truth but if I spend the vast majority of my time on things not given to me it is assured that my learning will suffer. We will only cheat ourselves if we do these things. Our hearts should be on the further conversion of ourselves rather than on a carnal world. We need to study scripture asking who, what, when, where, how and why in prayer to God seeking answers. We serve our Lord and master in spiritual things not the carnal world that cannot even understand them. We are the bride of Christ and we need to make ourselves ready.
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